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i just want to come back to the debt ceiling. you said you wouldn't in this on the debt ceiling, and you did. last year you said that you wouldn't extend any of the bush tax cuts for the wealthy, and you did. as you say now that you're not going to negotiates on the debt ceiling this year, why should house republicans take that seriously and say if we get to the one minute to midnight scenario that you're not going to back down? >> well, first of all, juliana, let's take the example of this year and the fiscal cliff. i didn't say that i would not have any conversations at all about extending the bush tax cuts. i just said we wouldn't extend them for the wealthy. we didn't. you can argue that during the campaign i said -- i set the criteria for wealthy at $250,000, and we ended up being at $400,000, but the fact of the matter is millionaires and billionairres are paying significantly more in taxes just as i said. so for, you know, from the start, my concern was making sure that we had a tax code that was fair and it protected the
i just want to come back to the debt ceiling. you said you wouldn't in this on the debt ceiling, and you did. last year you said that you wouldn't extend any of the bush tax cuts for the wealthy, and you did. as you say now that you're not going to negotiates on the debt ceiling this year, why should house republicans take that seriously and say if we get to the one minute to midnight scenario that you're not going to back down? >> well, first of all, juliana, let's take the example of...
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. >> save your powder for the debt ceiling fight. we're spending our way into oblivion. >> i will not have another debate over this congress whether or not they should pay the bills they've already racked up. >> the bill as amended is passed. >> 89-8. that is absolutely historic. >> new year's eve produced by a bunch of sleep deprived doctrinenaraians. >> it reminds me of the jokes where someone stopped hitting you in the head with a hammer and you're supposed to say thank you. we created this monster. >> the yeas are 267. the nays are 167. >> so we have this totally dysfunctional senate. therefore a dysfunctional congress. >> it's not a violation. >> technically these are still tax cuts? >> correct. >> a hopefully the new year will focus on less drama, not scare the heck out of folks quite as much. >> let's get right to our panel here with me are krystal ball one of the hosts of msnbc's "the cycle" and jimmy williams an msnbc contributor. krystal, the fiscal cliff fight may be over but we heard many of them looking forward to a debt
. >> save your powder for the debt ceiling fight. we're spending our way into oblivion. >> i will not have another debate over this congress whether or not they should pay the bills they've already racked up. >> the bill as amended is passed. >> 89-8. that is absolutely historic. >> new year's eve produced by a bunch of sleep deprived doctrinenaraians. >> it reminds me of the jokes where someone stopped hitting you in the head with a hammer and you're...
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let's talk about the debt ceiling debate. we are all focused on this week and the president has been talking about it. what is your view on whether spending cuts should be part of the debt ceiling debate? i think that would be a serious mistake. i'm a republican, i have been so since i voted for ike in 1962 and let me tell you ie mistake. you are not talking about one thing that has to do with cutting spending. you're talking about everything and he paying your debts of the guys in the congress talk about an republican republicans drama. and every one of them has something to do with wanting ... and now you have to pay it. and you better pay and where your country is clearly facing a dire consequences. it shows that you don't give a whit about who's president. >> do you agree with the president and you think that we are risking what? a selloff in the market? 2001. >> what's going to happen if it comes to the worst case scenario here? >> somebody will say, don't forget, we all $16.4 trillion. half of that is owned by private p
let's talk about the debt ceiling debate. we are all focused on this week and the president has been talking about it. what is your view on whether spending cuts should be part of the debt ceiling debate? i think that would be a serious mistake. i'm a republican, i have been so since i voted for ike in 1962 and let me tell you ie mistake. you are not talking about one thing that has to do with cutting spending. you're talking about everything and he paying your debts of the guys in the congress...
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he voted against the debt ceiling i believe in 2006. why all of a sudden does he not want have to have negotiations? >> i think will's happened, larry, is that the president spent 2011 and 2012 with republicans squeezing him on his priorities, having opposed him during the first two years of his presidency. then that really had the wind at their back. the tea party election of 2010 had given republicans very big numbers on the hill. and he's decided that he backed up, and he backed up and he backed up, and he's not going to back up anymore. he took his argument to the american people in the election. he won the election. they held the house, that is true. but he's decided that he's been vindicated by public opinion broadly, and he's going to try to hold that ground. the question is going to be, larry, at the end of the year on the tax issue, he had the hammer behind him of the expiration of all the bush tax cuts. he does not have that hammer right now. what he has is the prospect of a catastrophic standoff between republicans and democr
he voted against the debt ceiling i believe in 2006. why all of a sudden does he not want have to have negotiations? >> i think will's happened, larry, is that the president spent 2011 and 2012 with republicans squeezing him on his priorities, having opposed him during the first two years of his presidency. then that really had the wind at their back. the tea party election of 2010 had given republicans very big numbers on the hill. and he's decided that he backed up, and he backed up and...
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so where do we go with the debt ceiling? >> sure. when we have the debt ceiling, the speaker and mitch mcconnell of the senate have both reiterated. if the president wants an increase in the debt ceiling of a trillion dollars as he's going to need every year of the second term, he's going to have to agree to a trillion dollars of spending cuts. this is exactly what happened in 2011 and of the establishment media said the world would end and we have to have tax increases instead of spending restraint. that's not what happened. obama caved, give us the spending restraints. the next fight is one, the republicans have more of an upper hand. lou: it will be interesting to watch and see how that plays out. grover norquist, good to have you with us. >> good to be with you. lou: joining us now, chief economist of moody's. let's turn. you just heard grover norquist describing what is happening in washington d.c. entirely rational, makes perfect sense. i'm sure the nation is placated. how you feel? >> just a bad day. for some reason makes peop
so where do we go with the debt ceiling? >> sure. when we have the debt ceiling, the speaker and mitch mcconnell of the senate have both reiterated. if the president wants an increase in the debt ceiling of a trillion dollars as he's going to need every year of the second term, he's going to have to agree to a trillion dollars of spending cuts. this is exactly what happened in 2011 and of the establishment media said the world would end and we have to have tax increases instead of...
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global head of economics, radio talk-show host, president obama demanding congress raised the debt ceiling. when we come back we will be telling you about the lawmakers who he has informed he will miss his own budget deadline. it is actually a legal deadline, but you know, that is a minor technicality for the salmon restoration. the "a-team" takes up that technicality and more next. stay with us. ♪ lou: let's get to the "a-team" right now. former congressional candidate, fox news contributor. thank you for being here. let's start with the president saying that the issue here is not the second amendment. it's about taking away. what is the deal. why is he not being straightforward? >> because he is president obama, and that is who he is. i saw the rev. earlier talking about the moderator. he blamed the shows. chicago is the murder capital of the world, and the fact is a dove -- does have tough gun laws. the hollies, game makers, they're not going to the gun shows. lou: mentioned why the president has not even mentions the awful murder rate in chicago? much of it very near the neighborhood
global head of economics, radio talk-show host, president obama demanding congress raised the debt ceiling. when we come back we will be telling you about the lawmakers who he has informed he will miss his own budget deadline. it is actually a legal deadline, but you know, that is a minor technicality for the salmon restoration. the "a-team" takes up that technicality and more next. stay with us. ♪ lou: let's get to the "a-team" right now. former congressional candidate,...
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ceiling, he's right. >> wanting no fight over the debt ceiling? are you kidding me? what the president was saying was i'm the not going to play chicken with the debt limit. >> the president also wanted an unlimited debt ceiling increase. that's just, that's clearly somebody who is quite happy to go over the fiscal cliff. >> washington needs to be put on a mega diet. >> so this is the hollow victory, a victory of he revenue with no change in the nation's mark towards the coming breach. >> if we do not take out spending, then the cliff may not seem like a cliff, but will be a downward slide to make us like greece. >> and the republicans willing to tolerate a temporary partial government shutdown and insist that we get off the road to greece? because that's the road we're on right now. >> the uncertainly of whether or not we're going to deal with this deficit and the answer is sequestration, is still sort of undermined in the ability of business and investors. >> greta: and you just heard from him. congressman darrell issa, the country would go into
ceiling, he's right. >> wanting no fight over the debt ceiling? are you kidding me? what the president was saying was i'm the not going to play chicken with the debt limit. >> the president also wanted an unlimited debt ceiling increase. that's just, that's clearly somebody who is quite happy to go over the fiscal cliff. >> washington needs to be put on a mega diet. >> so this is the hollow victory, a victory of he revenue with no change in the nation's mark towards the...
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that's what the debt ceiling is about. one of the things i advocated was the restoration of the gephardt rule that said when congress voted for a budget, let's say it voted for the iraq war that cost a trillion dollars, then at the moment that they voted for that program the debt ceiling would be adjusted up or down to reflect the budget they just voted for. that's what most americans would do. so this debt ceiling is all about hypocrisy. it is all about pretending that we have an option about paying our bills. by the way, a lot of the bills we have to pay are things i was adamantly opposed to. i didn't want to go to war in iraq. i didn't want to have nation building in afghanistan. i thought the bush tax cuts were ill-advised but i'm a member of congress. america committed itself to those and i've got to stand by paying the obligations that have been incurred. >> john: congressman, i want to congratulate you on being a real fiscal conservative. congressman peter welch democrat of vermont, thank you. i hope you'll come bac
that's what the debt ceiling is about. one of the things i advocated was the restoration of the gephardt rule that said when congress voted for a budget, let's say it voted for the iraq war that cost a trillion dollars, then at the moment that they voted for that program the debt ceiling would be adjusted up or down to reflect the budget they just voted for. that's what most americans would do. so this debt ceiling is all about hypocrisy. it is all about pretending that we have an option about...
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they're going to have to, if they want to, for instance, raise the debt ceiling and avoid a financial crisis. the question is, can barack obama do a better job of helping them do that because there's been a lot of complaints in congress that he hasn't been leading. he has even offended members of congress by applying they're not doing their job. so i think there's this political question that's overlaid this very thorny economic question. >> will the leadership of this president make a difference? will he have to lead differently than he did in the first time? >> he does and i think he has already learned how to. he has shown a learning curving, the way he has framed the debt ceiling debate saying he will not let america be held hostage in these negotiations. that's one of the real key questions of a second term. can you go from lucky or good to good to great, is this. will the president really lead on debt? will he pull a nixon on china when it comes to debt and start leading on entitlement reform? like clinton did on health reform. he has always talked a good game. can he really lea
they're going to have to, if they want to, for instance, raise the debt ceiling and avoid a financial crisis. the question is, can barack obama do a better job of helping them do that because there's been a lot of complaints in congress that he hasn't been leading. he has even offended members of congress by applying they're not doing their job. so i think there's this political question that's overlaid this very thorny economic question. >> will the leadership of this president make a...
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i think what -- most countries in the world don't have a debt ceiling. when government -- when the congress and their equivalent appropriates the money, the government has the borrowing authority to pay for the imra money they borrow. ben bernanke said yesterday, we have to stop having these dibait overs the debt ceiling, it's a stupid idea. the head of the federal reserve. i think the democrats are frustrated. i think that's why they passed this bill -- >> neil: where was their frustration 7 years ago, when the folk who is were urging this very action today voted against raising the debt ceiling when george bush was president? where was the great constitutional resolve? >> i don't disagree with ow this. there are politics on both sides. i don't think anyone thinks this is going to pass. let's be clear. but there is growing frustration about the way the republicans are using this to go around the normal committee process -- >> neil: what were they doing seven years ago? were they going around the republican president to get their way? >> no. at the end o
i think what -- most countries in the world don't have a debt ceiling. when government -- when the congress and their equivalent appropriates the money, the government has the borrowing authority to pay for the imra money they borrow. ben bernanke said yesterday, we have to stop having these dibait overs the debt ceiling, it's a stupid idea. the head of the federal reserve. i think the democrats are frustrated. i think that's why they passed this bill -- >> neil: where was their...
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first of all, on the debt ceiling issue. ii think that people remember te summer of 2011, you have lots of house republicans who are threatening not to increase the debt ceiling, which means the united states would default on its obligations. it is important to understand what the debt ceiling is all about. just to provide the ability to pay for bills and obligations already o. wayne, already owing under the law. if the federal government were to wake up and decide not to pay those bills, it would be like any of us getting up after having gone on about things on a credit card and say we've got those things, but we're not going to pay for them. in every sense those obligations has been voted on previously by congress over the years, which is why people say so clearly, don't mess around with the public debt in the u.s. senate because he would have a negative impact on our economy and the world economy. tom mentioned that nobody is suggesting we not pay the public debt. that qualification is important here because earlier the n
first of all, on the debt ceiling issue. ii think that people remember te summer of 2011, you have lots of house republicans who are threatening not to increase the debt ceiling, which means the united states would default on its obligations. it is important to understand what the debt ceiling is all about. just to provide the ability to pay for bills and obligations already o. wayne, already owing under the law. if the federal government were to wake up and decide not to pay those bills, it...
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raising the debt ceiling does not authorize us to spend more. all it does is say that america will pay its bills. and we are not a deadbeat nation. and the consequences of us not paying our bills, as i outlined in my opening statement, would be disastrous. so i understand the impulse to try to get around this in a simple way. but there's one way to get around this. there's one way to deal with it, and that is for congress to authorize me to pay for those items of spending that they have already authorized. and, you know, the notion that republicans in the house or maybe some republicans in the senate would suggest that in order for us to get our way on our spending priorityies, that e would risk the full faith and credit of the united states, that, i think, is not what the founders intended. that's not how, i think, most americans think our democracy should work. they've got a point of view. democrats in congress have a point of view. they need to sit down and work out a compromise. [ inaudible ] yeah. >> and you're not negotiating on the debt c
raising the debt ceiling does not authorize us to spend more. all it does is say that america will pay its bills. and we are not a deadbeat nation. and the consequences of us not paying our bills, as i outlined in my opening statement, would be disastrous. so i understand the impulse to try to get around this in a simple way. but there's one way to get around this. there's one way to deal with it, and that is for congress to authorize me to pay for those items of spending that they have already...
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. >> speaking of that, the other thing this bill does not address at all is the debt ceiling, which we did hit yesterday. but of course, treasury circuit tim geithner has put in emergency spending measures that are going to forestall that crisis, again, for another couple of months. so we are going to be dealing with that issue again in february or so, also. >> absolutely. that's something the house very carefully conservatives because they view that as a points of leverage. in other words, if we are going to have to increase the debt ceiling and remember the budget they approved by paul ryan, increases the debt ceiling multiple times over the next few years, they view that as an opportunity to get an agreement to draw down spenning and to change the entitlement calculations and that's where you really start to make an impact. this was the trade-off -- remember, the trade-off in december of 2011 for the budget control act was to raise the debt ceiling in exchange for getting $1.2 trillion in cuts. and those gl 1.2 trillion were going to come in an agreement by the super committee -- wh
. >> speaking of that, the other thing this bill does not address at all is the debt ceiling, which we did hit yesterday. but of course, treasury circuit tim geithner has put in emergency spending measures that are going to forestall that crisis, again, for another couple of months. so we are going to be dealing with that issue again in february or so, also. >> absolutely. that's something the house very carefully conservatives because they view that as a points of leverage. in...
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ceiling. >> the debt ceiling, that even -- that makes me nervous. i'm twitching when i heard the words debt ceiling. stephen, do we think there's any more chance they're moving to at least some kinds of consensus of how we'll run the nation's books before we get to the debt ceiling? >> i'm not sure we are, actually. i think this budget was an ideological document -- >> aren't they all? wait, isn't that what it is, the president's mission statement, right? >> of course it is. no doubt about it. this is the president's statement. i worked for ronald reagan when we put our budgets. it's a statement of principle. the point i'm making is there's not a lot in here republicans are going to go say, oh, wonderful idea. we haven't talked about the new taxes which republicans will reject out of hand. the most interesting thing that happened this week when the president proposed what i think is a fairly modest change to social security, oh, my gosh, these organizations on the left, i mean, had cardiac arrest. and that makes me somewhat nervous about whether we'
ceiling. >> the debt ceiling, that even -- that makes me nervous. i'm twitching when i heard the words debt ceiling. stephen, do we think there's any more chance they're moving to at least some kinds of consensus of how we'll run the nation's books before we get to the debt ceiling? >> i'm not sure we are, actually. i think this budget was an ideological document -- >> aren't they all? wait, isn't that what it is, the president's mission statement, right? >> of course it...
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they don't want to have the debt ceiling be the problem. they think that would be very bad for the economy and for everyone in the economy. they worry about interest rates going up and they worry about the impact on our deficit. because when interest rates go up, that means the deficit will go up. so we make the problem worse by taking this route if we go down this pathway. >> i want to throw three terms at you that we've had to stomach out in america. debate over the fiscal cliff, the debate over the debt ceiling and the budget show dunn. all three of these very serious. but which is the most serious. >> the debt ceiling could do damage to our countries for decades to come if we hit it and don't expect the problem. this is the most dangerous thing. this is almost a nuclear option. this is really playing with very dangerous things. and one little mistake could be devastating to our country. >> and yet you still come on day after day and smile with me. thank you. always good to see you. >>> by the way, i just want to remind you if you're doi
they don't want to have the debt ceiling be the problem. they think that would be very bad for the economy and for everyone in the economy. they worry about interest rates going up and they worry about the impact on our deficit. because when interest rates go up, that means the deficit will go up. so we make the problem worse by taking this route if we go down this pathway. >> i want to throw three terms at you that we've had to stomach out in america. debate over the fiscal cliff, the...
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if every time you read the debt ceiling and offset that with cuts, if you raise the debt ceiling to get you by for a year, you had trillions of dollars of cuts over 10 years, by the end of the 10 years, you would have to have trillions of dollars over the next century? the math compounds. >> there are cuts on top of cuts that would mean you would not need to read -- raise the debt ceiling anymore. perhaps you could reduce the debt ceiling and increase spending every time you reduce it. i do not know. it is a bizarre scenario. the democrats have said that revenue will be on the table as part of their position. it is not a given that if they do this, all 2 trillion will come from spending cuts. some will come from additional revenue as well. >> is sequestration happens, if congress did not stick with the budget control act, [indiscernible] >> is budget deals do not tend to stick around for long and altered very long. i would not read too much into this. even if they decide to leave it alone this year. in fy-14, this will be debated again. the amounts could change. they could go up or down
if every time you read the debt ceiling and offset that with cuts, if you raise the debt ceiling to get you by for a year, you had trillions of dollars of cuts over 10 years, by the end of the 10 years, you would have to have trillions of dollars over the next century? the math compounds. >> there are cuts on top of cuts that would mean you would not need to read -- raise the debt ceiling anymore. perhaps you could reduce the debt ceiling and increase spending every time you reduce it. i...
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he will be talking about the debt ceiling. that is the $16.7 billion ceiling we will hit up against in congress. also, possibly touching on topics like gun violence and other issues that are on the president's agenda. >> ladies and gentlemen, the president of the united states. >> please have a seat. good morning. i thought it might make sense to take some questions this week as my first term comes to an end. it has been a busy and productive for years. i expect the same thing from the next four years, and i intend to carry out the agenda i campaigned on. new security for the middle class. right now our economy is growing and our businesses are creating new jobs. we are poised for a good year. if we make smart decisions in sound investments, and as long as washington politics did not get in the way of america's progress. as a set on the campaign, one component to growing our economy and broadening opportunity for the middle class is shrinking our deficit and a balanced and responsible way. for nearly two years now i have been
he will be talking about the debt ceiling. that is the $16.7 billion ceiling we will hit up against in congress. also, possibly touching on topics like gun violence and other issues that are on the president's agenda. >> ladies and gentlemen, the president of the united states. >> please have a seat. good morning. i thought it might make sense to take some questions this week as my first term comes to an end. it has been a busy and productive for years. i expect the same thing from...
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. >>> there are answers for renewed calls for congress to raise the debt ceiling. for more on that and a look at the world markets and how they did overnight, we turn to seema mody at cnbc world headquarters. >> good morning to you. let's start with markets. futures lower after a mixed session on monday. as you pointed out apple weighing on tech on reports that it is cutting component costs but dell took others higher on talks it's in talk with several firms. we get a trio of federal reserve officials speaking out about the economy today. the dow rising 18 points in yesterday's trade and nasdaq slipping eight to close at 3117. here's our top story. treasury secretary tim geithner is calling on congress to raise the debt ceiling. in a letter to lawmakers geithner says it could cause harm to the u.s. economy. the government will run out of tools to avoid defaulting on debt sometime in late february or early march. that would mean social security and other government benefit checks would stop going out. fed chairman ben bernanke is joining the cause saying the economy
. >>> there are answers for renewed calls for congress to raise the debt ceiling. for more on that and a look at the world markets and how they did overnight, we turn to seema mody at cnbc world headquarters. >> good morning to you. let's start with markets. futures lower after a mixed session on monday. as you pointed out apple weighing on tech on reports that it is cutting component costs but dell took others higher on talks it's in talk with several firms. we get a trio of...
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ceiling and we may meet the goal which we set out to do, which is to have roughly a $4 trillion cut over 10 years in the long-term deficit and to put us on that path. talk didn't come here to about any of those important subjects today, because as important as they all are today we have a more urgent and immediate call and that is how to deal with the epidemic of gun violence in america. you all know the statistics better than anyone so i'm not going to repeat them. on that score, i owe an incredible debt of gratitude to you at the head table and those of you in the room. i know we don't have unanimity in this ballroom nor do we in any ballroom, but we all acknowledge that we have to do something. we have to act. and i hope we all agree, there is a need to respond to the carnage on our streets and in our schools. i hope we all agree that mass shootings like the one we witnessed in newtown 34 days ago cannot be continued to be tolerated. that tragedy has affected the public psyche in a way i have never seen before. the image of first graders, not only shot, but riddled with bullets.
ceiling and we may meet the goal which we set out to do, which is to have roughly a $4 trillion cut over 10 years in the long-term deficit and to put us on that path. talk didn't come here to about any of those important subjects today, because as important as they all are today we have a more urgent and immediate call and that is how to deal with the epidemic of gun violence in america. you all know the statistics better than anyone so i'm not going to repeat them. on that score, i owe an...
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the fact, for example, in terms of the debt ceiling, he's just simply rule ought certain ways to be able to deal with it. or again in the campaign, you promise 2 $1/2 of cuts for every increase. so what's occurring here, both sides have emerged out of an election. the president i would argue, not surprisingly, has been particularly rigid here as well. and what they both have to do is pig out how do they actually get to the table and negotiate. having that said that one other thing given the last round of negotiations i know the speaker was not particularly happy and going in and negotiating with the president doesn't product results. >> gentlemen, thank you. there's another issue, and that's one we're talking about a lot today that congress has been slow to act on in the past. but momentum and support are building, it seems, for tougher gun laws in the wake of last month's newtown, connecticut, school tragedy. richard lui has been looking at how the u.s. stacks up against other countries when it up cans to gun ownership and violence. what did you find out? the united states has unsavory
the fact, for example, in terms of the debt ceiling, he's just simply rule ought certain ways to be able to deal with it. or again in the campaign, you promise 2 $1/2 of cuts for every increase. so what's occurring here, both sides have emerged out of an election. the president i would argue, not surprisingly, has been particularly rigid here as well. and what they both have to do is pig out how do they actually get to the table and negotiate. having that said that one other thing given the...
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ceiling or the debt limit. where do we go from here? joining me now live mark murray. mark, obviously, the first thing at least some conservatives brought up with the president is that he has taken a different stance in the past when it came to the debt ceiling. >> well, in 2006, then senator barack obama ended up voting against a raise in the debt ceiling. republicans have seized on that saying that the position that president obama's taking today and also in 2011 is inconsistent with that 2006 vote. there is one very big difference between now and 2006. 2006 there wasn't this kind of big protracted battle over the debt ceiling at all. it wasn't a big issue. i was covering politics for nbc at the time. the debt ceiling increase was seen as a procedure and a very partisan vote then but not something you were reporting on for weeks and months like we have in 2011 then and now on the debt ceiling debate and, of course, what happened in 2011 was a loss to the nation's credit rating. there's big differences between
ceiling or the debt limit. where do we go from here? joining me now live mark murray. mark, obviously, the first thing at least some conservatives brought up with the president is that he has taken a different stance in the past when it came to the debt ceiling. >> well, in 2006, then senator barack obama ended up voting against a raise in the debt ceiling. republicans have seized on that saying that the position that president obama's taking today and also in 2011 is inconsistent with...
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that has to be the middle of december, and then the debt ceiling, which of course we're going to bump up against this thursday. that will be raised until february 7th. interesting little note there, piers, it was supposed to be a week later. but i was told that on the one hand it was moved up because that is a little bit of a give to republicans. because they want to have it closer because they think it is good leverage for their position. another is, remember the next week is president's week here in the united states, which is a congressional recess so they don't want to bust another one of their recesses, which is what they're doing now. >> we can't have that, can we, how do you see it shaping up in terms of key moments? >> the key tomorrow morning, at 11, the senate republicans will meet, and the republican leader, mitch mcconnell will present the framework of this deal to the senate rank and file. so the question is going to be whether or not they are going to go for it. and i think the most important thing in the short-term is ted cruz, who knows how to use the senate procedural
that has to be the middle of december, and then the debt ceiling, which of course we're going to bump up against this thursday. that will be raised until february 7th. interesting little note there, piers, it was supposed to be a week later. but i was told that on the one hand it was moved up because that is a little bit of a give to republicans. because they want to have it closer because they think it is good leverage for their position. another is, remember the next week is president's week...
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the debt ceiling. the president drew a line in the sand. last night. how do you see it playing out. >> you know, i part with a lot of people in washington on this question. and i think that the president is extremely serious about this commitment not to negotiate over the debt ceiling. if you read bob wolverite's book, it's something that comes through the entire time. if the congress can continue to hold things up, can continue to hijack the process by continuing to tilt the balance of power away from the president and onto congress, he thinks that as part of his legacy, he wants to defend the white house's power in this sense. so i think he is going to lay down everything to stick to that commitment to not negotiate on the debt ceiling. and i think he'll dare the republicans to stop him. what are they going to do? are they going to sue him? are they going to send the capital police up pennsylvania avenue? are they going to threaten to impeach him if he just pays the debts that the congress itself racked up. that would be suicidal and it's political s
the debt ceiling. the president drew a line in the sand. last night. how do you see it playing out. >> you know, i part with a lot of people in washington on this question. and i think that the president is extremely serious about this commitment not to negotiate over the debt ceiling. if you read bob wolverite's book, it's something that comes through the entire time. if the congress can continue to hold things up, can continue to hijack the process by continuing to tilt the balance of...
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the gop needs to learn the difference between a debt and debt ceiling. it was put in there so the treasury didn't have to keep issuing bonds. most other countries when they issue legislation that has mo y money, it is spent. it's meant to give treasury enough room to issue bonds so they didn't have to keep doing it. using the debt ceiling and the ability to pay our bills for things we've already spent is just outrageous. it was outrageous in august and the republicans continue to use this language that somehow it's to control spending. it's just incorrect. >> so back them up only in the fact that there are plenty of republicans who say, good god, do not use this. this will kill us. >> the question is, if we went over the cliff or didn't fail to raise the debt ceiling, certainly there would be dire consequences. the question is, when else is the congress of the united states going to do anything proactively about spending? they have proven definitively over the last 70 years that they cannot do it. and this has become, for better or for worse, the pivot p
the gop needs to learn the difference between a debt and debt ceiling. it was put in there so the treasury didn't have to keep issuing bonds. most other countries when they issue legislation that has mo y money, it is spent. it's meant to give treasury enough room to issue bonds so they didn't have to keep doing it. using the debt ceiling and the ability to pay our bills for things we've already spent is just outrageous. it was outrageous in august and the republicans continue to use this...
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regarding the debt ceiling. is that something that republicans are willing to do here, or it must be linked? the two have to go hand in hand? >> reporter: they are insisting, and when i say they, i'm talking about house republicans and the senate republican leader, but they have to go hand in hand. this is something that we heard over and over and over again when we had this debate the last time, back in the summer of 2011. andion that ve ioion you know t suzanne. but the house speaker and his aides are telling us that they really mean it this time. that there has to be a dollar of spending cuts for every dollar that the u.s. agrees to raise the debt limit. and that they would even go for a two or three-month extension as they try to work on a more global discussion of cutting spending. but even if there's an extension, it has to go point by point. the other thing i want to mention, suzanne, which i thought was really interesting, after covering the white house under george bush, that last question about the fac
regarding the debt ceiling. is that something that republicans are willing to do here, or it must be linked? the two have to go hand in hand? >> reporter: they are insisting, and when i say they, i'm talking about house republicans and the senate republican leader, but they have to go hand in hand. this is something that we heard over and over and over again when we had this debate the last time, back in the summer of 2011. andion that ve ioion you know t suzanne. but the house speaker...
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we are a london-based debt ceiling limit. we cannot know what is in store for my state budget or other states because we do not know what congress and the administration is going to do as they work together to find a solution to the been issues facing our nation such as the cuts in the deficit. we have a current website or we have a best practices, resources. -- we have a great website where we have best practices and resources. there was an option we were looking at for being able to help those who were uninsured create better access to care. we need that flexibility in oklahoma to sustain a program currently working in my state. >> i was hoping you could expand on the tax reform task force you created. can you outline some of the goals? you also mentioned tax exemption about investment infrastructure. maybe you can expand on that in terms of what steps you are taking as congress is talking about sequestration. >> the tax reform task force is being led by the governor of pennsylvania and the governor of kentucky. we recogniz
we are a london-based debt ceiling limit. we cannot know what is in store for my state budget or other states because we do not know what congress and the administration is going to do as they work together to find a solution to the been issues facing our nation such as the cuts in the deficit. we have a current website or we have a best practices, resources. -- we have a great website where we have best practices and resources. there was an option we were looking at for being able to help...
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is he winning this debt ceiling battle? i know you have written about this on slate. >> i think he is winning intel correct annually and emotional and probably politically with the public but it remains to be seen what congress is going to do. we haven't seen a lot of engagement with congress yet. the debt ceiling somewhere between february 15th and the end of february, early march. we don't know quite exactly where it will be. we don't know whether john boehner and the republican house will look him in the eye and say we are not doing anything. it's a mystery right now. >> in fact, politico reported this week over housealf of house republicans say they are willing to shut the government down if they don't get the spending cuts that they are demanding as a price for raising the debt ceiling. >> that is what they are saying. it's still far enough out so that it could all be posturing. even if i accept it -- and i do -- that half of the house members actually believe that as we get closer, as the pressure builds, corporate ex
is he winning this debt ceiling battle? i know you have written about this on slate. >> i think he is winning intel correct annually and emotional and probably politically with the public but it remains to be seen what congress is going to do. we haven't seen a lot of engagement with congress yet. the debt ceiling somewhere between february 15th and the end of february, early march. we don't know quite exactly where it will be. we don't know whether john boehner and the republican house...
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raising the debt ceiling does not authorize more spending. it simply allows the country to pay for spending that congress has already committed to. these are bills that have already been racked up. and we need to pay them. so while i'm willing to compromise and find common ground over how to reduce our deficits, america cannot afford another debate with this congress about whether or not they should pay the bills they have already racked up. but to even entertain the idea of this happening, of the united states of america not paying its bills is irresponsible. it is absurd. the full faith and credit of the united states of america is not a bargaining chip. and they had better choose quickly because time is running short. >> house republicans continued to threaten to use the debt ceiling as a bargaining chip. house republican conference chairwoman kathy rogers told "political" i think it is possible we would shut down the government to make sure that president obama understands that we're serious. well, i guess that would do it. we always talk
raising the debt ceiling does not authorize more spending. it simply allows the country to pay for spending that congress has already committed to. these are bills that have already been racked up. and we need to pay them. so while i'm willing to compromise and find common ground over how to reduce our deficits, america cannot afford another debate with this congress about whether or not they should pay the bills they have already racked up. but to even entertain the idea of this happening, of...
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we had the debt ceiling, the fiscal crisis, and that's really the tip of the iceberg that is coming our way based on unbelievable demographics and unbelievably unsustainable government spending. what i want to do is take what i learned and hopefully apply it to again a great conundrum that now exists in washington, which is how do we get our financial house in order? >> i wish you all the very best. thank you for joining me again tonight. it's a pleasure to talk to you as it was last time. i genuinely wish you well. i'm glad you're making another go at this. good luck with it. >> i appreciate it, thanks. >>> a critic who says newtown changed everything, but the nra doesn't get it, and the gun advocate who says america doesn't have a gun problem. they just have a values problem sneezing, , aches, fevers. and i relieve nasal congestion. overachiever. [ female announcer ] tylenol® cold multi-symptom nighttime relieves nasal congestion. nyquil® cold and flu doesn't. >>> today, president obama is pushing forward with his sweeping gun plans, vowing to make it a reality. the white house know
we had the debt ceiling, the fiscal crisis, and that's really the tip of the iceberg that is coming our way based on unbelievable demographics and unbelievably unsustainable government spending. what i want to do is take what i learned and hopefully apply it to again a great conundrum that now exists in washington, which is how do we get our financial house in order? >> i wish you all the very best. thank you for joining me again tonight. it's a pleasure to talk to you as it was last...
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but the president says he will not have the debt ceiling tied to the bills congress has already racked up. >> what i will not do is to have that negotiation with a gun at the head of the american people. >> reporter: the debt ceiling deadline is just one of three budget showdowns the white house and congress face in the coming months. house speaker john boehner said if laws do not tackle the debt and spending at the same time, it will cost americans jobs. in a statement, senate minority leader mitch mcconnell said "the president and his allies need to get serious about spending." danielle nottingham, cbs news, the white house. >>> military suicides have reached record levels. so bad that the secretary of defense calls it an epidemic. the pentagon says there were 349 suicides among active duty personnel last year. that's more than the number of combat deaths in afghanistan. experts say iraq and afghanistan war veterans suffering from depression and post traumatic stress are at the highest risk. >>> secretary of state hillary clinton will testify next week about the deadly attack on the
but the president says he will not have the debt ceiling tied to the bills congress has already racked up. >> what i will not do is to have that negotiation with a gun at the head of the american people. >> reporter: the debt ceiling deadline is just one of three budget showdowns the white house and congress face in the coming months. house speaker john boehner said if laws do not tackle the debt and spending at the same time, it will cost americans jobs. in a statement, senate...
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one would be the debt ceiling. the second is the expiration of the continuing resolution that funds an agreement. if you can't reach an agreement, then you'd have a government shutdown. neither one of these outcomes is good. one though is immediately and totally catastrophic. that's the debt default. if republicans now -- if blackburn's comments maybe are indicative of something, if republicans now are moving away a little bit from the threat of the debt default and are now talking about the shutdown and the continuing resolution in this totally screwed up washington that we have right now with all these perverse incentives, that actually does represent progress if republicans are now only talking about a government shutdown and not a debt default. >> do you agree with that? >> i mean, not really. i know what you're saying but i don't really think we should give a lot of rewards. we citizens, we the political class, or we the media for different strains of this kind of leverage. i think the problem and it was in a
one would be the debt ceiling. the second is the expiration of the continuing resolution that funds an agreement. if you can't reach an agreement, then you'd have a government shutdown. neither one of these outcomes is good. one though is immediately and totally catastrophic. that's the debt default. if republicans now -- if blackburn's comments maybe are indicative of something, if republicans now are moving away a little bit from the threat of the debt default and are now talking about the...
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. >>> the president's second term is starting where his first left off, a debt ceiling crisis and paul ryan twisting the facts. the president was quite insistent monday he will not stomach hostage taking nor medicare and social recipients referred to as takers. >> the commitments we make to each other through medicare and medicaid and social security, these things do not sap our initiative, they strengthen us. they do not make us a nation of takers. they free us to take the risks that make this country great. >> and for those who need a quick campaign 2012 refresher, it was quite obvious to whom that phrase, a nation of takers, was directed at. >> we can become a society where the net majority of americans are takers, not makers. we're going to a majority of takers versus makers in america. more takers than makers in society. takers versus makers in america. >> could have been listening to ayn rand then. joining us is democratic congressman charlie rangel of new york. >> good to be back with you. >> congratulations on a new congress. in an interview today paul ryan said those comments
. >>> the president's second term is starting where his first left off, a debt ceiling crisis and paul ryan twisting the facts. the president was quite insistent monday he will not stomach hostage taking nor medicare and social recipients referred to as takers. >> the commitments we make to each other through medicare and medicaid and social security, these things do not sap our initiative, they strengthen us. they do not make us a nation of takers. they free us to take the risks...
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the whole debt ceiling thing itself is a crazy thing. it forces the president to do something illegal, either to defy congress on what it told him to spend or defy congress and borrow when it told him not to. >> krugman was one of the leading proponents of the trillion dollar coin idea which involved minting a platinum coin which would be deposited at the federal reserve allowing the government to pay off bills should congress fail to act. over the weekend the treasury d department ruled out the idea. >>> before we go to break. shoot me an e-mail at waytooearly@msnbc and let me know why you're awake. you can also tweet me. >>> still ahead on "way too early," a wild weekend for the nfl as the atlanta fallons break their playoff slump in dramatic fashion. i'll bring you all the weekend highlights next in sports, if i make it. >>> and it was a big night for fans of "homeland" and a little-known show called "game change." we'll also get a check on weather when "way too early" comes right back. >> here we are. good morning to you. the very fi
the whole debt ceiling thing itself is a crazy thing. it forces the president to do something illegal, either to defy congress on what it told him to spend or defy congress and borrow when it told him not to. >> krugman was one of the leading proponents of the trillion dollar coin idea which involved minting a platinum coin which would be deposited at the federal reserve allowing the government to pay off bills should congress fail to act. over the weekend the treasury d department ruled...
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ceiling, although he said he is open to more spending cuts. but he insisted that the u.s. is, quote, not a deadbeat nation. >>> walmart, the nation's largest retailer, will announce a plan today to hire every veteran honorably discharged in the last 12 months who wants a job which could mean 100,000 new jobs. >>> former president george h.w. bush was released from a houston hospital after more than seven weeks of treatment for bronchitis and related problems. >>> rand paul faces charges of assaulting a flight attendant on a january 5th flight in addition to underage drinking and other charges. >>> the chicago transportation authority is suing united airlines. they claim the airline is buying its jet fuel 70 miles away to avoid paying close to $300 million in sales taxes. the airline says the suit's claims are untrue. >>> students at the university of vermont should not bring bottled water had they return to campus because the school has banned its sale for environmental reasons. vermont is the largest public university to prohibit bottled wate
ceiling, although he said he is open to more spending cuts. but he insisted that the u.s. is, quote, not a deadbeat nation. >>> walmart, the nation's largest retailer, will announce a plan today to hire every veteran honorably discharged in the last 12 months who wants a job which could mean 100,000 new jobs. >>> former president george h.w. bush was released from a houston hospital after more than seven weeks of treatment for bronchitis and related problems. >>> rand...
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ceiling debate. he's in full campaign mode. do you think the president emboldened by reelection and maybe emboldened by a win on the fiscal cliff, do you think he's overreaching on the political consequences and how should republicans deal with it? >> look, i think he clearly felt after the election that he was out to crush the one institution that was stopping his agenda, that it stopped it in the second, in the third and the fourth years of his administration, first administration, namely the republican house. he set up the fiscal cliff negotiations deliberately to split the republicans in the house, knowing that if he did, it would neuter the opposition and he would have the kind of dominance of washington, which he had in the first two years before he lost the house in the mid term elections. so, i have no doubt that that's how he used the fiscal cliff. that's how he's going to use the issue of immigration and that's how he's going to approach the debt ceiling and other issues and it's his object
ceiling debate. he's in full campaign mode. do you think the president emboldened by reelection and maybe emboldened by a win on the fiscal cliff, do you think he's overreaching on the political consequences and how should republicans deal with it? >> look, i think he clearly felt after the election that he was out to crush the one institution that was stopping his agenda, that it stopped it in the second, in the third and the fourth years of his administration, first administration,...
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now, we must negotiate the debt ceiling. high unemployment, social unrest. again, we learned from the mountain. baby steps to build confidence. >> if we ski slowly, we feel what we are doing and then we get confident and we get faster and faster. >> reporter: but economic growth seemingly won't go faster. there's always the risk in the global economy that something goes wrong. snowboarders are like central bankers. they have their own way of shredding down the mountain. for bankers, it means printing money. it's brutal economics. >> what's the secret to snowboarding? >> don't be scared. >> reporter: you pick up speed too quickly and you end up falling over. >> come on. that's why you need to move.
now, we must negotiate the debt ceiling. high unemployment, social unrest. again, we learned from the mountain. baby steps to build confidence. >> if we ski slowly, we feel what we are doing and then we get confident and we get faster and faster. >> reporter: but economic growth seemingly won't go faster. there's always the risk in the global economy that something goes wrong. snowboarders are like central bankers. they have their own way of shredding down the mountain. for bankers,...
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so now if you threat through the debt ceiling fight between june and july? and the thought is it would be. there are piece meals in the house that it voted on and compromised with the senate. we will see if there's desire. it's just a matter of time. >> we'll see you the next time. >>> in big money headlines, why it should affect how much you will be paying to fly. marissa mayer apologizing for e-mail messages that affected 1% of customers. they have reportedly corrected the issues for most users. so i c an reach ally bank 24/7, but there are no branches? 24/7. i'm sorry, i'm just really reluctant to try new things. really? what's wrong with trying new things? look! mommy's new vacuum! (cat screech) you feel that in your muscles? i do... drink water. it's a long story. well, not having branches let's us give you great rates and service. i'd like that. a new way to bank. a better way to save. ally bank. your money needs an ally. i get times are tight. but it's hard to get any work done like this. then came this baby -- small but with windows and office. it ru
so now if you threat through the debt ceiling fight between june and july? and the thought is it would be. there are piece meals in the house that it voted on and compromised with the senate. we will see if there's desire. it's just a matter of time. >> we'll see you the next time. >>> in big money headlines, why it should affect how much you will be paying to fly. marissa mayer apologizing for e-mail messages that affected 1% of customers. they have reportedly corrected the...
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in a monday afternoon press conference, president obama said he would not negotiate on the debt ceiling although he said he's open to more spending cuts but he insisted the u.s. is, quote, not a dead beat nation. officials in stratford, connecticut, plan to rename an elementary school in honor of victoria soto, a teacher killed in last month's newtown school shooting. officials say she died trying to shield her students from the gunman. >>> walmart will announce a plan to hire every veteran cha wants a job, which could mean 100,000 new jobs. >>> george w.h. bush was released from the hospital after a month. >>> william paul, son of kentucky rand paul, faces charges of assaulting a flight attendant on a january 5th flight. in addition to underage drinking and other charges. >>> the chicago transportation authority is suing united airlines, claiming they are buying its jet fuel 70 miles away to avoid playing close to $300,000 in sales taxes. >>> students at university of vermont should not bring bottled water when they return to campus because the school banned its sale for environmental
in a monday afternoon press conference, president obama said he would not negotiate on the debt ceiling although he said he's open to more spending cuts but he insisted the u.s. is, quote, not a dead beat nation. officials in stratford, connecticut, plan to rename an elementary school in honor of victoria soto, a teacher killed in last month's newtown school shooting. officials say she died trying to shield her students from the gunman. >>> walmart will announce a plan to hire every...
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this is not like the debt ceiling or even the fiscal cliff. this is not doomsday even if it does happen. it's just stupid and we shouldn't do it. >> ezra, a couple of things here. first of all, for a long time, the stock market and the economy, as from the perspective of working people, have been at least two different things, correct? one thing, you can see the stock market doing fine. that might have a lot more to do with china than what is to happen march 1st. secondly, let's say nothing happens. the unemployment rate is stuck around 8%. this is a pretty lousy time for nothing to happen. in fact, if you look at the cbo projections, the projection with the sequester taking effect is for the unemployment rate to be 7.9% the first half of this year, 8% for the second half of this year. so, basically stuck at a place that's really very disadvantageous for so many workers. >> jared, let me interrupt this colloquy here and ask you, jared, we know that there are other looming fiscal fights, the march 27th deadline for the continuing resolution, bu
this is not like the debt ceiling or even the fiscal cliff. this is not doomsday even if it does happen. it's just stupid and we shouldn't do it. >> ezra, a couple of things here. first of all, for a long time, the stock market and the economy, as from the perspective of working people, have been at least two different things, correct? one thing, you can see the stock market doing fine. that might have a lot more to do with china than what is to happen march 1st. secondly, let's say...
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the debt ceiling is announcing the amount of money the states can borrow. today the president responded to some republicans who say they are willing to shut down the government if the president doesn't back down. ultimately congress makes decisions about whether or not we spend money and keep the government open. if they decide they want to shut down the government in order to get their way they have the votes in the house of representatives to do that. i think that would be a mistake. >> john boehner responded the american people do not support raising the debt ceiling without reducing government spending statement. wendell, a government shut down, is that something that really might happen? neither side is ready to blink yet. he has laid out they are ready to compromise if possible that could lead to a government shut down although probably not right away. president obama suggested right before the u.s. the people at home might be told they have to wait for their money. >> if congressional republicans refuse to pay america's bills on time social security
the debt ceiling is announcing the amount of money the states can borrow. today the president responded to some republicans who say they are willing to shut down the government if the president doesn't back down. ultimately congress makes decisions about whether or not we spend money and keep the government open. if they decide they want to shut down the government in order to get their way they have the votes in the house of representatives to do that. i think that would be a mistake. >>...
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maybe we shouldn't call this the debt ceiling at all. maybe we should change it the downgrade ceiling because this game of chicken is sick. >> sometimes semantics can make all the difference. >>> breaking news. "usa today" is reporting that lance armstrong has confessed to using performance enhancing drugs. i am looking at just rapped with lance armstrong, 2 1/2 hours. he came ready. what he did tell her? >> he confessed to doping in his cycling career. the interview just wrapped. and there is a confidentiality agreement about the show. it won't air until thursday. the plan all along was to use the venue to confess. make an admission about doping in his cycling career. something he's never done before. he's denied it for years and attacked those who accused him of it for years. >> significant development. >> attacked and attacked aggressively. denied allegations so many times. many people who thought there was no way he could tell the truth believed him. the power and passion in which he denied it. now he has admitted to something, now t
maybe we shouldn't call this the debt ceiling at all. maybe we should change it the downgrade ceiling because this game of chicken is sick. >> sometimes semantics can make all the difference. >>> breaking news. "usa today" is reporting that lance armstrong has confessed to using performance enhancing drugs. i am looking at just rapped with lance armstrong, 2 1/2 hours. he came ready. what he did tell her? >> he confessed to doping in his cycling career. the...
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. >>> and this afternoon, the senate decides whether to raise the debt ceiling for the next few months. in the bill, an interesting provision that would hold the senators' pay if they failed by february 15th. >> the midwest is trying to dig out. what else you got? and there's more. >> wait till you see the windchills in north dakota this morning. ugly. let's start with the bad weather. over 500 reports of severe weather over the last 48 hours. now the high winds and maybe even a quick rumble of thunder is trying to roll through new jersey and head up into new england. the storms are flying, that's the good news. baltimore, maryland, washington, d.c., you're done with the heavier rains. you'll see the line through new jersey, it's heading right over top of new york city and up into connecticut and the hudson valley. this is that enhanced line here as it moves to the north. and this is just a huge system, and we're going to continue to see the winds cranking for the next 24 to 48 hours over the eastern seaboard. winds are pretty light, but boston, wind gusts of 49, hartford, 41. the wind
. >>> and this afternoon, the senate decides whether to raise the debt ceiling for the next few months. in the bill, an interesting provision that would hold the senators' pay if they failed by february 15th. >> the midwest is trying to dig out. what else you got? and there's more. >> wait till you see the windchills in north dakota this morning. ugly. let's start with the bad weather. over 500 reports of severe weather over the last 48 hours. now the high winds and maybe...